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Device Overview

Name/Version: STING by IFTAH. a really nice acid line generator 1.03
Author: iftah  
Description: 1.03 update: Generated pattern will now save with the set / preset.

i first came up with the idea for "sting" 10 years ago during a residency in reykjavik. it started like half a joke as in "can i program something that can generate acid lines" and turned out to be a great musical tool and super popular device. since then it saw several iterations that were made public, except of this last and concluding version which i was using on stage during the final years of skinnerbox.

"sting 2022" allows you to generate anything from atonal to acid lines and fluidly morph between them. you can also transpose the root note via midi, offset the sequence and do other neat things.

click on the smily face to generate a new sequence, use the “Density” dial to morph between 16 variations of the sequence, use the “Type” dial to morph between 16 tonal and a-tonal versions of the sequence, use the “Root” parameter to define the root of the scale or toggle “Midi” to define the root with incoming midi notes.

demo video here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CiPqk9EtfJ_/
 

Device Details

Downloads: 8243
Tags sequencer, hardware
Live Version Used: 11.1
Max Version Used: 8.3
Date Added: Sep 08 2022 10:25:01
Date Last Updated: Sep 13 2022 14:11:03
Average Rating (9) 5
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Device Type: midi_device
URL (optional): https://www.instagram.com/p/CiPqk9EtfJ_/
License (more info): AttributionNonCommercialNoDerivatives

Device Files

Device File: Sting 2022 by Iftah_1.03.amxd
 


Comments

Sweet! Very stoked to see this surprise! As a happy owner of skinnerebox, can't wait to check this out! Thank you!!!

Fantastic! Thank you very much!

What an amazing device. Thank you so much for sharing!

ultimate fun

So nice and helpful! Thanks for sharing!

I've used the original Sting! since it came out, and copied / stolen from it ever since.

I love seeing life in the original idea still.

The smooth pulsating smiley face really caught my eye when I was scrolling down the list of what's new. The demo video really gets the point across!

This looks so cool but I can't download it. It says file not found. Anyone got the same problem?
Thanks!

@Tamhardtek I've been reading similar reports, it works here so its probably some server issue at maxforlive.com, just try again and im sure it'll work

thank you!

@iftah Thanks for your reply mate, now it works perfectly.

Thanks for sharing!!!

Is there a way to find presets or are they random by clicking the face? I'm wondering if they are assigned in the background.

@rdavilla76 @iftah also wondering about this - is there like a noise seed in the background that we can see - or is that a significant change to the way it works. I think adding a seed/pattern preset saver would be sweet and then just generate banks to switch acid lines in a track.

i'd buy a version that would save presets (at least a quick midi clip dump to a channel)
save the generated line with the project (pretty sure its an easy adjustment most of us did with the originals..i recall something inside just had to be set to automate or something)
maybe some cute stuff like generate a note staff hehe

@hatyn i was about to write a very long response about why the lack of saving is a conscious design choice i took for STING many years ago and that in studio scenario i actually recommend using sting to quickly generate ideas , record them to a midi track and move on in life in order to not get stuck on generating the whole day and ruin your creative process with the curse of potential etc etc etc


but in the end it was simpler to just update the device than to eloquently phrase this so the latest version (1.03) saves with the set / device preset, just redownload to update


Love it! Thanks so much.

@iftah I knew/know that this is a choice. But we are mere mortals. I will use your device live as intended of course. Much love and thank you for the update! Hope you do a workshop in berlin/eu sometime would be f awesome

So much fun, thank you!

I found it! It took me 4 days to find the preset I lost. I saved it originally and when I came back to it it was a different pattern. I lost what I was working on. The device was doing random things after each 2 bars.

It does seem that they are presets or set patterns in the background and not just random because I was able to find the exact pattern. Keep in mind I had remembered the parameters exactly as it was, but just had to keep clicking the face until I heard the pattern.

@rdavila76 , STING is not using any presets and is as random as randomness in max can be

(here is a nice article about randomness in max if you are interested https://dobrian.github.io/cmp/topics/intro-to-max-and-msp/3.Randomness-in-Max.html )

i guess you just got lucky :)

Are the waveforms in teh video just a visual thing for the demo? can we choose between sine or saw? can't find the option. Nice work!

@justix66 STING is only generating midi, with which you can sequence any synth you want. the waveforms in the video are actually a screen capture of ableton?s wavetable which i used in the video


This looks incredible, but I get x's for eyes and nothing happens when using the device. Am I missing something?

am I missing something? is there a way to simply drag a pattern to midi clip. maybe I'm too lazy, but that would be a handy addition!

@admorningstar sting generates midi, it has no sound on board, you need to load it before a synth and press play

@tbf maybe sometimes in the future

Does this need Ableton 11 to run? Can't seem to get it working in Live Suite 10.

@iftah Ah thank you for clarifying! Working great now. I think this may be the same question as @tbf, but can Ableton record the MIDI notes? For now I am having a blast recording the output onto an audio track.

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