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Overview
Name | Version: | Morphiner 1.3 |
Author: | opticon93 |
Device Type: | Instrument |
Description: | Hi, This device spectrally convolves two samples. The samples are loaded into modified "More Simpler" devices, each with 5 note polyphony. Most of the controls are self-explanatory and should be familiar from the "More Simpler" device. Midi Note controls the pitch of both samplers. When Stretching is off, the Pitch is changed by speeding up/down the sample, like a record player. When Stretch is on, Pitch and Speed are decoupled, so you can slow it down or Speed it up, without changing the Pitch. Each sampler has a 12-24db Multimode Filter with a dedicated Filter Envelope and a dedicated Amp Envelope. You can transpose either sample up or down 2400 Cents. Dragging up and down on the waveform window allows you to zoom in and out. Many of the knobs have a higher resolution than what is displayed. In particular, the Start, Length, Cutoff and Speed parameters go through more values "under the hood" than what are displayed. Consequently, when you are using the arrow keys on your keyboard, it might seem like nothing is happening, but it is. Use Shift + Arrow Up/Dn to go faster. Because I use Start and Length, you can scrub through the file just by changing the Start knob, instead of needing to adjust Start and End values separately. The Rev button works in the same strange way that it does for More Simpler. Not quite sure what it is doing. The Normalize, Up and Down buttons modify the volume of the loaded sample in a permanent way. The Morphine object has two controls. The Morph control is similar to a regular crossfade mixer, but it really is different and hard to explain. It's kind of like this. When the Morph is at Zero, any frequency bins of the first sampler that are above 0% (all of the nonzero ones) will be used in the resynthesis. Meanwhile, only the frequency bins of the second sampler that are above 100% (none of them) will be used in the resynthesis mix. The end result is that you will only hear the top sampler. If the Morph is set to .25, then the frequency bins of the first sample that are above 25% (many of them) will be used, while only those bins of the lower sampler that are above 75% (some of them) will be used in the resynthesis. So, you will hear a resynthesis biased towards the top sampler. Like I say, difficult to explain. All I can say about the Scale control is from the helpfile: "The progression depends upon the exponential transition Scaling value. Larger values widen the transition space between the two sounds." I have no idea what this means, but it definitely has an effect. Share and Enjoy!!! Simple Update: I added a Track Title at the top. Just hit the Open button again when you rename the Ableton Track. Just to make sure people know, I already made the envelopes 60 seconds long |
Details
Live Version Used: | 11.3.4 |
Max Version Used: | 8.5.3 |
Date Added: | Jul 08 2023 02:31:45 |
Date Last Updated: | Jul 21 2023 23:45:32 |
Downloads: | 583 |
ⓘ License: | AttributionNonCommercialShareAlike |
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Files
Device File: | Morphiner 1.3.amxd |
Comments
First observation, the device disappears everytime you click to go through your sample browser. That's not a good thing. Modify it to stay open while finding samples.
Posted on July 09 2023 by irishmos |
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Ok. So you can't drag a sample to it as it closes when you choose the sample. So.....it's not functional.
Posted on July 09 2023 by irishmos |
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I was able to drag a sound in by moving live to half screen and morphiner to the other half. When samples are loaded, no midi input triggers sound.
Posted on July 09 2023 by irishmos |
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Thats pretty much how floating windows work with max for live devices. Its not closing them, it is simply bringing the Live window to the top. The device needs space of its own to remain visible.
If you can't hear anything, you need to make sure you are running the most recent version of Live. Several max objects got updated and only run in the newest version.
If you can't hear anything, you need to make sure you are running the most recent version of Live. Several max objects got updated and only run in the newest version.
Posted on July 09 2023 by opticon93 |
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Max 3 installed 4/18/23
Odd with the visibility as none of my other max devices disappear behind the DAW when dragging samples into them. It looks like a cool device. Just trying to provide constructive feedback to help.
Odd with the visibility as none of my other max devices disappear behind the DAW when dragging samples into them. It looks like a cool device. Just trying to provide constructive feedback to help.
Posted on July 09 2023 by irishmos |
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I was able to minimiize live to get the samples dropped into the device but no audio. My live and max are up to date
Posted on July 09 2023 by FreddyFingaz |
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I can't wait to try it but I'm in the same situation as the others: no audio :( I hope it's an easy thing to fix. Live 11.3.4 Max 8.5.4
Posted on July 09 2023 by enchse |
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Thats pretty bizarre. I've tried it on two other computers with no problems. It would be helpful if somebody could report any max messages from the max window.
Posted on July 09 2023 by opticon93 |
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this message maybe? "fftz.morphine~: fftz.morphine~: No such object"
sorry i'am a complete dumb on the matter. and btw thank you for sharing your devices!!
sorry i'am a complete dumb on the matter. and btw thank you for sharing your devices!!
Posted on July 10 2023 by enchse |
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But??? What??? The whole point of freezing a device is so that it includes all the externals.
I put the morphine object up on Google Drive here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/121XaO4-ytHgv9LqjA_jCCJLs5WQmBuGQ/view?usp=sharing
After you download it, put it in you Max folder, probably at Documents/Max 8.
If that doesn't work, I guess I'll need to rework it with regular old spectral convolution like with my FM Convolver and Grain Convolver devices.
Let me know please.
I put the morphine object up on Google Drive here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/121XaO4-ytHgv9LqjA_jCCJLs5WQmBuGQ/view?usp=sharing
After you download it, put it in you Max folder, probably at Documents/Max 8.
If that doesn't work, I guess I'll need to rework it with regular old spectral convolution like with my FM Convolver and Grain Convolver devices.
Let me know please.
Posted on July 10 2023 by opticon93 |
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just found out that same file was already inside Documents/Max 8/Max for Live Devices/Morphiner Projects/externals
Should I put it somewhere else?
Should I put it somewhere else?
Posted on July 10 2023 by enchse |
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You just need to make sure that it is actually in the Max path. The top level directory should work. You can check your path by opening the device for editing and then going to Options, File preferences
If not, I'm just going to scrap the whole thing.
If not, I'm just going to scrap the whole thing.
Posted on July 10 2023 by opticon93 |
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The path seems correct, don't know if someone has been luckier than me, but I couldn't make it work unfortunately.
Posted on July 10 2023 by enchse |
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Don't scrap it. It's a good start. I just can't trigger the samples.
Posted on July 10 2023 by irishmos |
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Well, I went and created a Project for the device and Consolidated the project and then Froze the device. It said it added the fftz objects, just like before. Its very confusing, because Max For Live devices are already supposed to be projects and Freezing them is supposed to add the required files.
Hopefully this new version works.
Hopefully this new version works.
Posted on July 11 2023 by opticon93 |
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Please Let me know
Posted on July 11 2023 by opticon93 |
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Just quickly tried it and came back here to say: it's working!! Thanks so much!
Posted on July 11 2023 by enchse |
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Wow! Awesome, Thank you!
Posted on July 11 2023 by opticon93 |
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It works now! Just try to get the device to not disappear behind Ableton and you have a winner.
I'm also confused why transpose moves in 38 step increments instead of 1 like usual. Very odd.
It's a cool device and worth developing.
Thanks
I'm also confused why transpose moves in 38 step increments instead of 1 like usual. Very odd.
It's a cool device and worth developing.
Thanks
Posted on July 11 2023 by irishmos |
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Hi, I figured out how to get it to stay on top. Hopefully, the rest of it still works.
Are you on a Mac? For me, Transpose goes in 1 cent increments.
Are you on a Mac? For me, Transpose goes in 1 cent increments.
Posted on July 11 2023 by opticon93 |
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Yes. Catalina/Live 10.1.4 suite
I checked the last update. If I transpose -1 it goes -38.
I checked the last update. If I transpose -1 it goes -38.
Posted on July 11 2023 by irishmos |
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The device is staying on top!
Posted on July 11 2023 by irishmos |
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I can manually enter transposition to any number. Just the dial is moving in 38
Posted on July 11 2023 by irishmos |
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I'm on Live 11.3.4 and transposition goes by 1cent if using the keyboard arrows and 38(ish) with mouse. Not a big deal for me. Happy to see the device staying on top! thnx
Posted on July 11 2023 by enchse |
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I'm playing with it for a few. Is it possible to extend decay and release to the same ms/s as say Simpler, 60s? 20 is a bit short
Posted on July 11 2023 by irishmos |
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I was manually adjusting trans w mouse. I needed +5 so i just entered it.
Posted on July 11 2023 by irishmos |
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Ok. 60s Envelopes.
You can get smaller increments when mousing the knobs by holding the shift key.
You can get smaller increments when mousing the knobs by holding the shift key.
Posted on July 11 2023 by opticon93 |
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Whats up with M1 support ? :=)
Posted on September 07 2023 by Shroomystic |
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Sadly, it won't load for me. Error says one of the externals isn't compatible with Apple Silicon. Looks like it's fftz.morphine~
Any chance we could convince you to re-compile that binary?
Any chance we could convince you to re-compile that binary?
Posted on January 31 2024 by GarrettNorvell |
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Hi, it includes the latest versions I can find for both mac and win. In the comments above, you can find people who have it working on macs. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about how to compile binaries. Don't really know anything about macs either.
It took about five years of waiting just for the 64bit Win version of FFTease to appear in an obscure forum post on the Max site: https://cycling74.com/forums/fftease-max7-osx
They mention that it should be easy to compile the binaries because there is an "xcode" file in the github here
https://github.com/ericlyon/FFTease3.0-MaxMSP
I don't know that much, so I really don't know how to compile a mac program on a windows computer.
It took about five years of waiting just for the 64bit Win version of FFTease to appear in an obscure forum post on the Max site: https://cycling74.com/forums/fftease-max7-osx
They mention that it should be easy to compile the binaries because there is an "xcode" file in the github here
https://github.com/ericlyon/FFTease3.0-MaxMSP
I don't know that much, so I really don't know how to compile a mac program on a windows computer.
Posted on January 31 2024 by opticon93 |
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Thanks for the quick response!
I do t know much about it either but I’ll take a look at that Xcode resource and if I can figure it out then I’ll let you know.
Thanks again for your work!
I do t know much about it either but I’ll take a look at that Xcode resource and if I can figure it out then I’ll let you know.
Thanks again for your work!
Posted on February 01 2024 by GarrettNorvell |
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Someone on cycling73 took pity on me and directed me to some updated externals, so I chucked them into Morphiner and it's working beautifully on Apple Silicone / MacOS! I also edited the UI so it works in the Live chain.
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/10037/morphiner-g
Thank you for a great device, @Opticon93
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/10037/morphiner-g
Thank you for a great device, @Opticon93
Posted on February 14 2024 by GarrettNorvell |
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Thats awesome. Thank you. Do you have the link to the other externals? There are a lot of FFtease objects and they are all pretty fun.
Posted on February 17 2024 by opticon93 |
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