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Name/Version: Korg Minilogue Controller 1.6
Author: nozric  
Description: If you like this device, please feel free to show your support by buying me a coffee! https://ko-fi.com/andrewnorris

Other things I’ve made: https://tiny.cc/andrewnorris

Updates:

v1.6:

- GUI update. The interface now more closely resembles the layout of the actual Minilogue.

- Performing a program dump on the Minilogue will now update the dials and switches on the device accordingly.

Enormous thanks goes to halffish (https://maxforlive.com/profile/user/halffish) for providing the Max patch and Javascript to handle the sysex to CC conversion.


How to perform a program dump from the Minilogue:

1. Press the ‘Edit Mode’ button on the Minilogue.
2. Select ‘Program Edit’ using the ‘Program Value’ dial.
3. Press the furthest right flashing red button (labelled ‘Sidechain’) from the ‘Voice Mode’ buttons underneath. The display on the Minilogue should now read ‘Program Dump. Execute?’.
4. Move the ‘Program Value’ dial right one click. The display should now read ‘Press WRITE’.
5. Press the ‘Write’ button.
6. The display will then read ‘Transmitting’ and the dials on the device should now move to match the parameter settings on your Minilogue.



Just be sure to set the ‘MIDI In’ port on your track to your Minilogue and set Monitor to ‘In’ before you perform the program dump. Also, I’d recommend connecting your Minilogue via USB to do this. I had trouble getting Max For Live to accept the program dump when was using the MIDI In/Out ports on the Minilogue connected through a MIDI interface.

v1.5.2:

- Fixed the issue with device colours not displaying correctly when using certain Ableton Live skins.

- Added a 'Note Out' button. Turning this off will filter out any Note Out messages. Keep it turned off if you're playing notes from the Minilogue and getting MIDI feedback.

- Changed a few colours and the location of the 'Randomise' button.

v1.5.1:

- Fixed the problem with stored presets not saving with project. Any custom presets you store in the 'presets' panel on the device will now be saved along with your project.

- Added more empty preset 'slots' (increased from 40 to 55).

If you wish to save your custom presets so that they can be recalled again in any project, just use the 'Save Preset' button in the device's title bar.

v1.5:

- Added Push 1 / 2 support.

All Minilogue's dials and switches can now be accessed via the following banks on your Push controller:

VCO1
VCO2
Mixer
Filter
Amp / EG
LFO
Delay

v1.4:

- Updated MIDI CCs to work with new Minilogue firmware (v1.21).

v1.3:

- Added (bi-directional) controls for Octave Selector on VCO 1 and 2.

v1.2:

- Added randomise button. Added preset store / recall panel.

v1.1:

- Added bi-directional control. Dial movements on Minilogue are now recognised and displayed on the device.

v1.0:

Device used to control most of the parameters of the Korg Minilogue synth. No sysex, just the following CC parameters:

VCO 1 (Saw, Triangle, Square)
VCO 2 (Saw, Triangle, Square)
VCO 1 Pitch
VCO 1 Shape
VCO 1 Volume
VCO 2 Pitch
VCO 2 Shape
VCO 2 Volume
Noise Volume
Cross Mod Depth
Pitch EG Int
Sync (On, Off)
Ring (On, Off)
Filter Type (4 Pole, 2 Pole)
Filter Cutoff
Filter Resonance
Filter EG Int
Keytrack (Full, Half, Off)
Velocity (Full, Half, Off)
Amp Attack
Amp Decay
Amp Sustain
Amp Release
EG Attack
EG Decay
EG Sustain
EG Release
LFO Wave (Saw, Triangle, Square)
LFO Rate
LFO Int
EG Mod (Int, Rate, Off)
Target (Pitch, Shape, Cutoff)
Delay (Post, Pre, Bypass)
Delay Hi Pass Cutoff)
Delay Time
Delay Feedback
Voice Depth
 

Device Details

Downloads: 2143
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Live Version Used: 10.1.30
Max Version Used: 8.1.8
Date Added: Jun 14 2016 04:32:09
Date Last Updated: Dec 01 2020 11:26:06
Average Rating (1) 5
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Device Type: midi_device
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Device Files

Device File: Minilogue 1.6.amxd
 


Comments

Great thank you !

Awesome! Many Thanks.

One question: when I drop this device on a track already connected with my minilogue it seems to push all default settings onto the minilogue destroying its current state - would there be a way to not have it do that (potentially read the minilogue's state on initialising)?


Hi joplaete. Yes, it'll do that I'm afraid and I'm not sure how to stop it.

Like you, I'd really like a way of having the 'data send' to go the other way (so from the Minilogue into Live) on launch. However, the only option I can see that the Minilogue has is a 'preset dump'. It won't do this automatically, you have to do it through the settings menus. Also, unfortunately, the way the Minilogue does this is through sysex messages. It won't just send the MIDI CC values of whatever preset you're using. Interpreting the sysex data is proving to be a bit of a nightmare.

If I ever get my head around it, I will definitely include this option in a future update.

Based on your good work I made a controller for the Korg Monologue:

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/4008/korg-monologue-controller

Kudos to you!

Will this allow me to edit the parameters of the minilogues audio instead of midi? I can already edit the effects with midi. just sad you cant convert external midi to audio.

The main reason I need this is to record automation for my minilogue in Arrangement view. However, when I turn the physical knobs on my minilogue, it records midi cc into the clip as well as automation into the track lane. Then when I play back the two compete with each other, and the "Re-Enable Automation" button stays lit.

How can I disable midi cc recording in the clip, and only have it record automation of the m4L minilogue params in the Arrangement track lane?

Sorry for the late replies - I don't check this page too often.

bazarbizar - And kudos to you too! Nice work. Now I just need a Monologue! :)

Frequency - I'm sorry, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I suspect the answer may be no though.

gburks - Good point. I never considered this but can understand the problem it causes when recording automation. I'll need to look into it. I don't think it's possible to disable MIDI CC recording in the clip, by the way.

gburks - You could try this as a workaround:

1. Download the Midi Filter M4L device: http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/377/midi-filter

2. Set up your Minilogue as an External Instrument in Live and load the Minilogue Controller device.

3. Place the Midi Filter device after the Minilogue Controller device and set it to filter CC only.

4. Record your automation

5. Remember to turn off the Midi Filter device before playback.

nozric! wonderful job on this thing. Huge help.

Couple questions though:

- The "preset" area on the left... I can't seem to figure out how that functions. Can I somehow store presets there? Nothing seems to happen when I select any square except the first one, which just resets to defaults.

- When I save a patch in Live and reload it, it doesn't update my Minilogue accordingly. Is there a way to force-send all CC to the Minilogue?

Hi rettic. Thank you, and sorry for the late reply.

- You can store presets by holding Shift and clicking an empty preset. Delete presets by holding Alt + Shift.

- Only by saving presets first. Clicking a saved preset will send all stored CC MIDI data to your Minilogue.

Hey, great work. Love the ability to control my minilogue via ableton.

Just one thing I cant figure out:
Lets say I have 3 Channel in which i want to use different settings on my minilogue.

I of course know, that I cant play them simultaniously, but I would really like the possibility to come back to each channel to adjust my settings after freezing/unfreezing that channel. The issue here is, that ableton with this m4l-Plugin doesnt remember my setting for each channel but replaces it with the latest setting I made on the Minilogue.

Am I missing something here? Is there a workaround on this?

Thank a Lot!

rezoneros - You could use the presets storage in the device itself, perhaps? Shift & click to store a preset, Alt & Shift and click to delete and just click the preset to recall it.

Hi nozric, and thanks for this great device.

I have a small problem : the presets I've saved in the device disappear each time I re-open the set, do you know why?

@Mecanique22

Sorry, yes, saving presets appears to be broken. It'll get fixed on the next update. The only workaround for now is to save any important presets to the Minilogue itself.

Saving presets is now fixed :)

Thanks !

Hi nozric. Absolutely love your device.

I notice it only works when the minilogue is connected via USB. Is there a way to make it work through a MIDI interface?

I ask mainly because the USB connection seems to put more noise into my Minilogue's signal than a MIDI cable connection does.

Thanks for all your work.

Thanks jfkiff!

I don't use USB MIDI either (for the same reason as you!) and connect through an ESI M4U XT external device. So it definitely works with a MIDI interface.

Make sure you add an 'External Instrument' device on the same track and set the 'MIDI To' to your interface. Same goes for the 'MIDI From' on your channel.

To prevent MIDI feedback, use a MIDI Filter device (there's one on here if you search for it)

Hi
I have two issues with that pluign:
1. All the text labels (Pitch, Shape, VCO1 ...) are grey, like they are inactive or not avaible. They are not black like on your picture on top. Do you know where the issue could be?

2. Is there a way that all the digital knobs in ableton take the right place when you change a preset on the minilogue? like when you are changing the preset in the controller you made? Everytime i select a new preset on the ML i have to touch the knob so it is show correctly in ableton.

Hope anyone can help!

@pierluigigubello

1. I think this is connected with Ableton skin settings. I could replicate your issue when loading the device and changing skin. Perhaps try selecting your Ableton skin again, then reload the device?

2. It's possible, yes, but not with this version. And to do it will require a LOT of extra work on my part! In order to get the dial settings from Minilogue and get them to show on the device, it requires a sysex dump from the Minilogue. This means processing the sysex data and matching this to the corresponding dials. A great deal more work than just mapping CCs/ dials. I hope to do this once I've got my head around how the Minilogue sends sysex data.

@nozric

1. Thank you! I had the dark skin and it was beacause of that..

2. Ok, I didn't know it was so complex. But i'm looking forward to it ;)

Nonetheless it's a great tool, thank you!

Cheers @pierluigigubello! And thanks for the feedback. :)

I've actually been wanting to do the 'dials updating in Ableton' thing for a long time now. It would be so nice just to have the dials update on screen every time you select a new preset on the Minilogue.

Unless I'm missing something though, there's no way around this other than to decipher the long list of numbers the Minilogue spits out when doing a program dump and assign these to dial positions. As far as I know too, you still wouldn't be able to just turn the preset dial on the Minilogue and the device would update. For whatever preset you currently have selected, you'd need to go into the Minilogue's menu, go to Program Edit and select the "program dump' option. Still fiddly but less hassle than touching each dial, one by one!

I'm going to have another look at it over the next few days. See if I can either find an easier way of doing this or learning a bit more about the sysex.


I really love this device! But i have one question. How can i get the knobs on the device to move as i move them on my minilogue? Do i have to assign them with midi mapping or should they already be assigned? Thanks!

@Pasque11

Thank you, I'm glad you like it! :)

They are already assigned so you don't need to map anything. Just make sure that the track the device is on is set to 'All Ins' or to the MIDI port and channel that you use for the Minilogue. Also make sure record is armed on that track. The dials on the device will then move as you move them on the Minilogue.

@nozric @pierluigigubello I actually implemented the dials updating from a SysEx dump (initiated from the minilogue menu) a while ago on top of this device, and I think it works pretty well! I'm garbage at making nice max patches, but I'm not so bad with Javascript, so I actually have a JS file for interpreting the SysEx and converting it to MIDI CC.

What i did was make a new max patch that sits in the device chain just before the Minilogue patch. It converts the SysEx into MIDI CC which updates the patch. I will maybe just send you the pieces I have (the patch and the JS file) and you could integrate it with your patch and make it look nicer?

@halffish - Oh, yes please! That would be amazing, thank you! :)

I got as far as getting the program dump into Max (and converting from hex to decimal) but just couldn't work out from the long list of numbers which parameters were actually being affected. So yeah, having some Javascript that converts the sysex to MIDI CC would be a massive help to me.

I was really struggling with this and I'd love to incorporate your work into the device if you're happy for me to use it. If you'd like to send me the patch and JS file, my email address is maurice.norris@gmail.com


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