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Great! Thanks for the update. Still loving this device a lot.

Excellent Devices. Only problem is that choking does not work anymore with these enabled

Good you got it working!

I made a mistake in my previous post (about installation tips) and had it removed. So here it is for any other users that might need it:

@AuralBee:

Copy the the files (JustTheTonic.amxd and JustTheTonic Rack.adg) in your Ableton User library. The standard location on a Mac is /Users/[username]/Music/Ableton/User Library/Presets/Instruments/Max Instrument/
Do not include the JustTheTonic folder, just the files.

Now from ableton drag the JustTheTonic Rack.adg into your ableton set and it should load the drum rack.

You can save the files somewhere else and it will still work, but when you load the drum rack it will load with empty chains asking for the amxd file. You need to point to the location where you saved the amxd file. But even if you have done that, the the initial presets don't get loaded somehow. Max makes a copy of the amxd file in the default user library location anyway and references to that one so if you want to alter it, you might get confused because then you have 2 copies of the JustTheTonic.amxd in your library.

If all is well, the adg file (=drum rack) should find the amxd file (=max file) and that should find your vst (and load 8 instances of it).

Like Oktagon staged, it should find your vst automatically. I was surprised the first time i started it and did not see the microtonic interface, but it just worked!

Good you got it working!

I made a mistake in my previous post (about installation tips) and had it removed. So here it is for any other users that might need it:

@AuralBee:

Copy the the files (JustTheTonic.amxd and JustTheTonic Rack.adg) in your Ableton User library. The standard location on a Mac is /Users/[username]/Music/Ableton/User Library/Presets/Instruments/Max Instrument/
Do not include the JustTheTonic folder, just the files.

Now from ableton drag the JustTheTonic Rack.adg into your ableton set and it should load the drum rack.

You can save the files somewhere else and it will still work, but when you load the drum rack it will load with empty chains asking for the amxd file. You need to point to the location where you saved the amxd file. But even if you have done that, the the initial presets don't get loaded somehow. Max makes a copy of the amxd file in the default user library location anyway and references to that one so if you want to alter it, you might get confused because then you have 2 copies of the JustTheTonic.amxd in your library.

If all is well, the adg file (=drum rack) should find the amxd file (=max file) and that should find your vst (and load 8 instances of it).

Like Oktagon staged, it should find your vst automatically. I was surprised the first time i started it and did not see the microtonic interface, but it just worked!

Hi Oktagon, I noticed the mixer is switched. Full left is noise and Full right is Oscillator. This is switched from microtonic which matches the placement of the modules. A minor detail and I will try to adjust it myself because after many years of microtonic use I am so used to their layout.

After a few days of intense usage I can appreciate this device even more. The preset switcher is a treat and I thought I would miss a "show microtonic interface" knob (I love to use the sequencer) but I now appreciate your choice to hide it. It keeps things clean, and forces you to use your interface, or even better, the Push (much more intuitive).

About the sequencer it's better anyway to use a separate instance of microtonic and route that to your rack so you can sequence multiple pads in one instance.

I also tend to place a velocity adjuster before the rack so it is not silent when I play the pads softly.

OMG! This is amazing. I use Microtonic All the time. I tried all other max solutions but none worked without issues. I already figured single microtonic instances works best. I havent tested it throroughly but it looks amazing so fare. Thanks for all the good work!!!

Ok got it to work, it was a security thing from my browser. I bought it and it is an excellent device, I really love it and have made some great sounding riffs with it.
My wish list would be: (some would mean a different layout that either does not fit the standard detail view height or a wider layout):

- On off button per step
- Octave switch (one up, one down) per step
- More pitch steps = a higher/scrollable grid similar to drum rack (I love playing with big wide, chords progressions, deadmau5/bodzin style)
- Probability per step
- 64 steps option
- Finer adjustments of the velocity / step length
- an additional mappable parameter row

Great little device. Is there a way to prevent it from filling up the undo history?

The link is not working

Ok MAC users.. after a few days of tinkering this is what I found:

There is a "Microtonic Drumrack.adg" in the Microtonic Drumrack Project folder. I loaded that one and could not understand how to link this to my vst. In Xanadu's comment he refers to the option to select your plugin manually and I could not find that.

I now understand this drum rack cells are loaded with "MicroTronic.pad.009.amxd" files (you can't see the name in the drum cell name, because it (cleverly) automatically renames them to numbers). But the MicroTronic.pad.010.amxd is the newer one that does contain the "select plugin manually" option. So the solution is to just drop the MicroTronic.pad.010.amxd on all drum cells. Now you can manually select the plugin. I didn't even need to do so, because this one found mine automatically. Beware that the default sound is almost inaudible because all the default values are zero, meaning levels, eq, panning etc are all set to hard left.

Now if anyone can explain me how to get the presets working and neural network, that would be great. Because unlike my first comment, this does not work. My max knowledge is very limited, someone else might be able to figure this one out.

Still, an amazing piece of work, clean programming and layout of the max file, clever functionality. I'd pay for a working version (that preferably does not crash Live but that's up to Sonic Charge).

Other than this not working on a Mac, it looks like an amazing piece of work so kudos for that anyway.

Unfortunately I can't get this to work on my Mac. It can find my presets but not my plugin. I tried to manually adjust the link in the max file in the VST module (VSTi/Microtonic Multi.vst) and added that folder to the Ableton live VST2 plug-in custom folder but it does not work.

I purchased this tool to be able to mute/unmute drum cells (similar to how this can be done on an MPC) and throw in some short cuts to fx while doing so.

It works really great, compliments to this programmer. There is room for improvement but mostly in the details. Shame for me is that Touchable does not play nice with this tool (I think due to touchable).I would recommend anyone who is interested in this combination to reach out to touchable. I hope they will be able to fix this.

I mentioned some feature request and the touchable issue to Tim, the developer of FX Central, and he is one of the most responsive and professional people i have had the pleasure to encounter in the music software/hardware world. If you don't work with touchable (in combination with fx central) i highly recommend this tool!

Hi it syncs fine now with the voyager!
Im really confused and tried everything. I cannot get it to recall the patches when i load the max file.
I follow your instructions (to adjust the location for the jx.fjit file (what does that do? recall the patch names?) but it doesn't work and i have to re load the voyager banks file every time to populate it.
When i edit the patch and click the box that reads the location (that start with read ") the max windows shows
jit.matrix Can't find the file "[location]"

Result is when i load my ableton project, the voyager patch is reset.
Can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks ! I will try this as soon as I am near my voyager again.

HI Moros, thnx for your reply.
I'm on a mac and use sysex librarian. For a far as i know the voyager recognizes the correct sysex files of the right format. So when i send any patch or bank it will load it. You don't have to set to 'receive' or anything like that. Your sysex file ends with .syx.txt. I removed the txt and send it to the voyager but it doesn't load correctly. The first bank ends up empty and the others don't match the patch names from the max device.
I guess if you would just export all banks directly from your voyager and send me that file, then i can load that one into mine. I tested it with my own banks and it works fine that way.

Great Device!
I wondered. How can i upload your patches to my voyager. Do i need the sound tower library manager? And the other way around, to i need the library manager to put my patches in the max device?
tnx!

The note length 'bug' was copied from the original 185 patch i guess. It's the same there.
Although I actually often prefer the legato style. Specifically for held notes, which, how it works right now, don't play the full length of the stage because it is cut of to prevent the problem with mono synths (which shouldn't be a problem. Aren't you mostly able to set your monosynth to "retrigger" the envelopes when played legato?).
Best option would be to be able to choose between 4 kinds of behaviours:
1 Play legato (tied notes, so you can do glides)
2 Staccato, current functionality
3 play all notes legato but release them just before the next stage so the envelope on a mono synth is retriggered.

All of the above could be done with a single 'gate' knob.
or 4th:
4 Staccato, current functionality, but held notes are played legato

Keep up the good work! love this device